Ronald Kordik

Tazewell, TN

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I bought a 2001 40 foot Dutch Star with one slideout behind the driver's seat. It operated as advertised for about a year and perhaps 20 cycles, but recently it balked at retraction. It begins to lift, but stops in about 3 seconds of operation. I used the jacks to change the coach's minor unlevel condition, but this changed nothing. Sometimes the motor continues to run after the slide has stopped moving, but depressing the slide switch stops the motor. The slide will move by manually turning the 5/8" nut near the center of the shaft.
Please advise and thanks.
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Economical Handyman

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Possible bad roller or rollers. Or the ramp for the rollers has changed/damaged. Have you used any slide grease on the rack?
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Deen

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We have the same (?) problem on our DSDP. The slide goes out fine but when it attempts to go up the ramp it'll stop. So far we've been pushing from outside or pulling from inside. I did replace the controller ($280) as the voice quit working and I thought it might be bad. That didn't change a thing and the "pot" is turned up all the way. Newmar tech's say the next thing is a new motor/gearbox at over $600.
There was some discussion on it on the site in my sig. One Newmar tech gave the answer that it was either the controller or the motor.
A few owners have taken the motor to a rewind shop and gotten it done for less than $100.
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jones4110

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If it is a Powergear motor, the gearbox is integrated with motor and both have to be replaced as a unit...unfortunately. It would seem that someone could rework the gear box if the motor is still good. I had unit replaced to the tune of 700 bucks and 6 weeks of backorder. My symtoms were exactly the same as yours by the way.
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Jones1

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I have a '99 Dutch Star with the same problem and have found that if the coach is connected to shore power or the engine is running the slide operates correctly. Connected to shore power or the engine running the voltage is higher so the amp draw of the slideout motor is a little less. Iwould like to increase the "pot" setting but can't find the controller and Newmar can't tell me where it is located on this coach. You might give this a try.
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J Walker

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These units sound like they are mechanical, not hydraulic. Have you lubed the gears? My HWH slide has gears that can be lubed with light oil, not grease. The latter can get too thick and attract dirt. On my nine year old MH I lubed the gears once and may not have needed that.
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wildmanbaker

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I have a Fleetwood MH and it has a weight limit of 150 pounds in the long slide. With the 3 basement storage compartments, the over head cabinets, and the dinenet storage drawers, it is very easy to overload it. When it is over weight by a large amount, it does not want to "climb the hill" to come in. With the engine running, it has less trouble, but it seems the weight is the main factor for the large slide retracting.
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Rick Jay

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Not sure how the slide controller is wired on the Dutch Stars, but on our GBM (with electric motors slides) a good ground connection on the controller is critical to get the room to extend or retract, but especially retract.
We had a couple of slide related problems with our front slide this summer, and most were related to sloppy workmanship at GBM. But one of the problems was a poor (loose) ground connection for the slide-out controller. During my trouble-shooting, I found that the ground wire (the copper, not the insulation) was black for 6 inches up the wire from it's ground connection.
I cut the wire, cleaned things up and made a new ground connection and solved that part of the problem.
Also, check any ground connections for the motor as well.
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Retiredblade

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All these posts make me gun shy about getting a coach with slide outs, the older I get, I don't feel like pulling wrenches anymore and I don't feel like paying others to do it!
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dougrainer

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1. The fact that the motor continues after it is done, means that the Transtorque bushing by the motor on the driveshaft is loose or defective. You MUST Torque that bushing down tight before you go any further. Since it slips that would cause a retraction problem, BUT NOT, cause the motor to stop on retract after a few inches. The motor will stop because of a few things.
1. LOW 12 volt power
2. The amp adjustment on the slide controller is set too low
3. The motor is defective
Newmar Slide rooms will NOT operate with the engine running. If you have a Newmar that does operate the slides with the Engine ON, then someone has bypassed the Ignition lock out.
Newmar requires that you either be plugged into Shore Power or have the APU running when operating the slide rooms to make sure you have full 12 volt power to the system.
Leveling or moving the jacks will not affect operation of a Newmar slide room.
Last, the odds are you need a new motor/transmission assbly and a new Transtorque nut assbly. The controller is probably OK. The old motor is probably pulling excess amps and causing the controller to kick out on retraction. The Motor and slide system is a Newmar designed and supplied part. Doug
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