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ib516 wrote:dansdad77 wrote:My main concern is a 5.4 should pull my trailer ok on the flats but what about mountains?
You are correct to be concerned. The 5.4L V8 is a great engine durability wise, but it is really down on power when compared to the competetition. It is ~90hp and 50 lbs-ft weaker than the 5.7L Hemi when tested on a chassis dyno for example. That is significant.
Who asked anything pertaining to a Dodge? Last time I checked, Dodge did not offer a 5.4. As for more HP...... the hemi is a 5.7. It's got another 20 cubes. It SHOULD make more HP! Also, read the payload capacity on both trucks......
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Let's hear it for "Team V-10" Yaaaayyyy! Look, the 5.4 will be fine, I had an 05 the thing was bulletproof and will deliver when you wind it up. I got tired of it downshifting all the time and got the best gas engine available. The 6.8L V-10 Triton. I no longer have concerns. Also, it is not horsepower that gets you moving and is sometimes the wrong thing to look at. When (RPM level)the torque is delivered is far more important than final HP numbers.
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These fine folks would kindly disagree with that statement...
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Since when is 300hp not enough to pull 6000lbs ?
Since when does your trailer have to weigh less then your truck?
Diesel engines in pick up trucks (oh beloved diesels) only recently exceded 300 hp but were pulling 12-15k, well over the weight of the trucks they are installed in.
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b_salgado wrote:CND SuperCrew wrote:As a former F150 with the 2v 5.4, I'm going to say you will not like the handling characteristics of the whole setup. My 03 F150 SuperCrew was 5k #'s dry weight, even loaded up, your trailer is going to weigh more then the TV. IMHO you will be burning through brakes every year or two. A V10 or diesel is much better suited for that trailer. Now that being said, if you only plan to camp locally and tow within a 150 mile radius with few hills, you can probably get away with it.
My 2 cents DO NOT compare an 03 to an 04. It is like comparing apples and oranges! I do not burn through brakes and my setup is rock solid. On flats, in mountains, on the back roads, on the highway, it doesn't matter. The 04+ has a 3V 5.4 with 300 HP just under your right foot. The 03 was a 2V with 260HP.
The body, frame, suspension, brakes, drive train, interior, ALL of it are different. If the OP is going for an 09', he will get the 6 speed trans, with IBC and tow haul. I love these people that come here and say you need a 250 with a V10 minimum to tow a TT with a GVWR under 7000# and a relatively light tongue weight! I dropped my friends Jayco 29' TT on my truck. It didn't even drop the suspension! He struggles with it. BTW.... he has an 03' We often go camping together.... His combo is shorter and lighter than mine is. I out pull him all day! He gets a little upset when I pass him in the hills.... he's doing 50, I pass him at 55-60. This is in a 65MPH speed zone.
The f-150 now has more tow capacity and is more capable than the F-250 was 10 years ago.
I guess you neglected to read my other post, funny how that happens. The OP has not made reference to what year TV he is looking to buy either.
Quote:My bad, if your trailer is max 6900# then staying under that weight limit and a 1/2 ton will do fine. Our current TT is 55-5800 loaded and this past summer we did 5600km trip no problem. Crossed the mountain range 6+ times, the wind was always the down fall not the mountains. The 5.4 are a well designed V8, my truck made all its 350# TQ at 2500rpm which was 100kph or 62mph.
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b_salgado wrote:ib516 wrote:dansdad77 wrote:My main concern is a 5.4 should pull my trailer ok on the flats but what about mountains?
You are correct to be concerned. The 5.4L V8 is a great engine durability wise, but it is really down on power when compared to the competetition. It is ~90hp and 50 lbs-ft weaker than the 5.7L Hemi when tested on a chassis dyno for example. That is significant.
Who asked anything pertaining to a Dodge? Last time I checked, Dodge did not offer a 5.4. As for more HP...... the hemi is a 5.7. It's got another 20 cubes. It SHOULD make more HP! Also, read the payload capacity on both trucks......
20 cubes does not = 90hp my friend. 
And no one said anything about Dodge. I just chose it as an example to illustrate my point that the 5.4L V8 is a bit down on power compared to the competition.
Guess I could have used Chevy or Toyota too, as the Ford makes less power than both of those as well. 
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ib516 wrote:b_salgado wrote:ib516 wrote:dansdad77 wrote:My main concern is a 5.4 should pull my trailer ok on the flats but what about mountains?
You are correct to be concerned. The 5.4L V8 is a great engine durability wise, but it is really down on power when compared to the competetition. It is ~90hp and 50 lbs-ft weaker than the 5.7L Hemi when tested on a chassis dyno for example. That is significant.
Who asked anything pertaining to a Dodge? Last time I checked, Dodge did not offer a 5.4. As for more HP...... the hemi is a 5.7. It's got another 20 cubes. It SHOULD make more HP! Also, read the payload capacity on both trucks......
20 cubes does not = 90hp my friend.
And no one said anything about Dodge. I just chose it as an example to illustrate my point that the 5.4L V8 is a bit down on power compared to the competition.
Guess I could have used Chevy or Toyota too, as the Ford makes less power than both of those as well. Like I said... until your post, nobody said anything about a Dodge. Heck, for that matter, nobody said anything about a V10 or diesel for that matter. And yes a HEMI 5.7 with 20 extra cubes, and a different stroke does equal 90 HP. Throw a nice quality tuner on the 5.4 and it will do anything you want it to do within it's ratings. As for Chevy and Toyota... you might as well throw Nissan in there too.... they all don't match the capacity that the Ford has. They might have the power, but what good is it if you can't put a load in it or on it? Ford still has the top selling truck. They get worked to death and still come back for more.
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You'll get no arguememt from me that the F150 is a great truck. They are great sellers for a reason. They will be even better when their powerplants are improved.
I will also say that an F150 is plenty for the RV the OP is asking about.
All I'm saying is that the competition has more power - that's it.
On a side note - totally unrelated to the topic, I'm jealous you get to live in NC. Visited there once, and I will go back. Beautiful part of the USA.
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ib516 wrote:You'll get no arguememt from me that the F150 is a great truck. They are great sellers for a reason. They will be even better when their powerplants are improved.
I will also say that an F150 is plenty for the RV the OP is asking about.
All I'm saying is that the competition has more power - that's it.
On a side note - totally unrelated to the topic, I'm jealous you get to live in NC. Visited there once, and I will go back. Beautiful part of the USA. We went and cruised the Blue Ridge Pkwy 2 weeks ago in our Mustang Vert. You are absolutely correct... It is beautiful! You really can't beat it.... it a large state, but there are some of the best beaches in the country and beautiful mountains all within 6 hrs!
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