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w6pea

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2oldman wrote:

If I thought I had to carry a weapon to safely boondock, I wouldn't do it. Criminals stay where the most unoccupied houses are - they don't go looking for remote RVs to burglarize.

Now, whether a person FEELS safe is another story.

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I'd like to comment again; "criminals" are not just the burglars who some say would not target the sparse area where we may boondock, one posting commented on marijuana patch, they are placed in an area where the individual who planted the pot think no one will stumble upon them. Some of the larger ones have been on State and or Federal lands. AND Then the meth operators who go to great extremes to hide their meth factory, I guarentee if you accidentally stumble upon a "professional drug criminal" they will go to whatever extremes to keep their illegal supply or operation a secret. I've seen holes dug in the ground and a board with spikes sticking up to deter any person from exploring any further oh and the hole is not visible until you step into it. Whether you decide to carry or have a firearm with you is a personal issue only you can make. I think you are safe when boondocking in areas you can get to by MH or TT or TC or 5er, more so than walking in un-chartered off marked trails. Bill


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w6pea wrote:

2oldman wrote:

If I thought I had to carry a weapon to safely boondock, I wouldn't do it. Criminals stay where the most unoccupied houses are - they don't go looking for remote RVs to burglarize.

Now, whether a person FEELS safe is another story.

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I agree with the above statement.


By all means keep your head in the sand if it's comfortable there. I am not talking about someone that wants to steal a wallet or TV. The sad and realistic fact is there are sick and evil sociopathic people that will rape,torture,and murder you and your loved one just because you are there and so are they. They are NOT confined to cities only. They may even see you in town buying supplies and follow you. This stuff is in the papers all the time. Wake up!
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Personal awareness will do more to keep you safe than a firearm.

The odds of encountering someone intent on harming you are probably thinner than winning the lottery. If some people want to ruin their trip worrying about it let them. If you are that uncomfortable, move.

And remember, just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't necessarily make them wrong.

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A couple of times a season someone stumbles across a marijuana patch in the woods. The operators of said farms are known to be unhappy with inadvertent discoverers.

I guarentee if you accidentally stumble upon a "professional drug criminal" they will go to whatever extremes to keep their illegal supply or operation a secret.

I have friends/aquantences on both the legal and illegal side of the fence and I can guarrentee you these people will go to whatever means to protect their operations. I promise you that there are shallow graves awaiting you and your wife, even LEO's if you should stumble across them unarmed. Some of these people are souless, ruthless, and definately destined to hell. I have heard some hair raising stories that I would not care to repeat.


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Just to add. We're talking way, way off the beaten trail. Not any place you would boondock in an rv or even a tent. Deep in the woods away from any possible human contact from the average hiker. Remember, these people dont want to be found.

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weathershak wrote:

Thanks for the answer. True about the wolf attacks being zero(source, Lakota Wolf Preserve) Should I decide to carry, I would prefer the shotgun myself. I thought it would be less of a hassle carrying something that cant be concealed.


These wolves seem pretty bold to me. Wolf clicky.


I take firearms wherever I can legally. It isn't because I am paranoid, it is because I am prudent. I wear my seatbelt even though most drive without getting in an accident, too.

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beavergod1 wrote:

Just to add. We're talking way, way off the beaten trail. Not any place you would boondock in an rv or even a tent. Deep in the woods away from any possible human contact from the average hiker. Remember, these people dont want to be found.


Pot farms, yes. Out here, though, some meth cooks are using RVs on BLM or FS land. That just happens to be where we camp.

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I prefer that the people who are uncomfortable with firearm possession, NOT PACK. I also respect their decision and reasons for not doing so.

I can tell you that we boondock on BLM land and the Forest Rangers do not carry firearms pursuant to their policies. They stop @ our campsite to visit, and they know that we are retired and current LEOs in possession of firearms. They specifically stated to us that they know who to be calling for backup assistance in an emergency, US. Certainly we would help in an emergency, but we do not pack to provide Rangers assistance and would prefer not to get involved in their jurisdiction off duty.

We saw this year on the Fourth of July the Rangers drive by our campsite with a couple of Sheriff's patrol Units for back up assistance as they were responding to a call at another campsite.

Incidents do occur and cell phone reception is non existant where we camp. My point in telling this story is that I am sure if an incident should occur when the need for firearm protection is necessary, those that do not carry may be grateful for camping neighbors that do.

I like the comment that the dirt engineer made, "I wear my seatbelt even though most drive without getting in an accident, too."





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beavergod1 wrote:

Just to add. We're talking way, way off the beaten trail. Not any place you would boondock in an rv or even a tent. Deep in the woods away from any possible human contact from the average hiker. Remember, these people dont want to be found.


Sounds like you are well informed. Got any good advice on avoiding contact with these people?


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