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crasster

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1) Do you hear gunshots all night long at national forests during hunting seasons?
2) Are national forests much more private that most state parks?
3) Is there a sense of freedom in national forests over that of state parks - EDIT - Is there constant park rangers driving around being watched, feel that you are around other campers as much, have nosey neighbors.
4) Is registration mostly on the "honor system" ie- pay in envelope, or do you have to go in and register etc.
5) Is dispersed (or free) camping very private? Can you usually run a generator without problems while camping in these types of sites?
6) Is safety an issue - such as robberies over that of state parks (never had any problems at state parks)
7) Is there any fee to get into National Forests?
8) To "boondock" or "dispersed camping" in a national forest, do you just simply drive in, find a remote site without hookups, and set up? Or do you have to go into the park HQ and tell them?
If you know the answers to any of these questions, I would appreciate it. We have a pop up camper with a full bathroom, and a small generator (800W) that we fit next to our propane tank. We are very curious about national forests as many Texas state parks are often very full & booked out. Also many Texas state parks have sites right on top of one another.
We are looking for cheap, private, and remote. I'm just concerned about safety and gunshots etc. We have 5 small kids and have camped at nearly every state park in Texas now.
Thanks a lot!
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elh0146

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1) Do you hear gunshots all night long at national forests during hunting seasons?
We've never heard gunshots at all when camping in national forests (don't know if we've been there at hunting season, though). However, I can't imagine hunters being out at night trying to shoot animals!
2) Are national forests much more private that most state parks?
I'm not sure a generalization can be made...it would depend, I suppose, on which state park and which national forest campground you're talking about. However, the national forest campgrounds we've stayed in usually have very private sites.
3) Is there a sense of freedom in national forests over that of state parks?
In what respect?
4) Is registration mostly on the "honor system" ie- pay in envelope, or do you have to go in and register etc.
Again, it depends. Usually, though, forest service campgrounds are on the honor system.
5) Is dispersed (or free) camping very private? Can you usually run a generator without problems while camping in these types of sites?
Dispersed camping is usually very private. As long as you're not within ear shot of any other camper, I suppose you could run your generator 24/7 if you chose to.
6) Is safety an issue - such as robberies over that of state parks (never had any problems at state parks
We've never had a problem any place we've camped, including state parks and national forests.
7) Is there any fee to get into National Forests?
Not for the forest itself, but many times there is a fee to stay at a campground.
8) To "boondock" or "dispersed camping" in a national forest, do you just simply drive in, find a remote site without hookups, and set up? Or do you have to go into the park HQ and tell them?
Pretty much the first, although there may be some restrictions (like camping so many feet/yards from a water source).
You might want to check out this website: Forest Camping
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Hjudge49

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I can only answer number one. Even during hunting season, it's illegal to hunt at night, so I guess you shouldn't hear any gunshots. The only exception to that is during the Alligator season in Florida when night hunting is the only legal time to hunt them. But the hunters don't shoot them with guns anyway.
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Great answers but I'll add a couple of comments.
elh0146 wrote: 1) Do you hear gunshots all night long at national forests during hunting seasons?
We've never heard gunshots at all when camping in national forests (don't know if we've been there at hunting season, though). However, I can't imagine hunters being out at night trying to shoot animals!
Not many animals that you can hunt in darkness. We've heard some shots in NFS campgrounds but the shooting was being done OUTSIDE of the National Forest.
2) Are national forests much more private that most state parks?
I'm not sure a generalization can be made...it would depend, I suppose, on which state park and which national forest campground you're talking about. However, the national forest campgrounds we've stayed in usually have very private sites.
National forests are NOT private they're PUBLICLY owned by the citizens of the U.S. If you mean are they more ISOLATED or less FREQUENTED, then the answer would be "yes" in most cases.
3) Is there a sense of freedom in national forests over that of state parks?
In what respect?
I tend to feel pretty "free" wherever I'm camping. Thanks to our armed forces for that
4) Is registration mostly on the "honor system" ie- pay in envelope, or do you have to go in and register etc.
Again, it depends. Usually, though, forest service campgrounds are on the honor system.
I've seen just about every variety of registration system in use. A few NFS campgrounds have utility hook ups (though rare) and gate attendents, many have campground hosts and probably MOST just an envelope pay system at a Kiosk of some sort.
5) Is dispersed (or free) camping very private? Can you usually run a generator without problems while camping in these types of sites?
Dispersed camping is usually very private. As long as you're not within ear shot of any other camper, I suppose you could run your generator 24/7 if you chose to.
I've OCCASIONALLY had someone camp near me while camping in disbursed areas but it's an exception. I can't actually think of any REASON to run a generator all night in a NFS campground since those camping there usually have equipped their RVs for dry camping so running a generator just isn't necessary. There's nobody to tell you you CAN'T though.
6) Is safety an issue - such as robberies over that of state parks (never had any problems at state parks
We've never had a problem any place we've camped, including state parks and national forests.
I'd suggest you ask yourself "if I'm looking for someone to rob would I choose a place where there is maybe 2 people in 10 square miles or someplace where there are LOTS of people to choose from?
7) Is there any fee to get into National Forests?
Not for the forest itself, but many times there is a fee to stay at a campground.
8) To "boondock" or "dispersed camping" in a national forest, do you just simply drive in, find a remote site without hookups, and set up? Or do you have to go into the park HQ and tell them?
Pretty much the first, although there may be some restrictions (like camping so many feet/yards from a water source).
In MOST cases disbursed camping is allowed anywhere that it is not specifically DISALLOWED. this could be by signage or by district rules. Best to check local forestry office for local rules.
You might want to check out this website: Forest Camping
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OK, I'll take "shot" at these 
1) We have been camping in Nat'l Forest/State Parks for over 13yrs and I have NEVER heard gun shot while camping. In fact, I don't believe that hunting is allowed in Nat'l forests.
2) As for privacy, it really depends where you stay. Most of the Nat'l forest campgrounds we have visited have large sites. Privacy differs from campground to campground. I wouldn't say they are all better than state parks because most state parks are just as nice.
3) Not sure what ya mean. 
4) Again, differs from park to park. I've had to register by envelope and have had to stop and register in person. But I've had the same with state parks
5) If you want real privacy, then dispersed camping is the way to go. There usually isn't anyone close to you and there aren't restrictions on generator use, etc. However, you may find fire restrictions outside the campgrounds.
6) Never had a problem with ANY state or nat'l forest campground. however, we take minor precautions like locking valuables in car, etc. If you leave them out in plain sight, they will probably disappear in either type of campground.
7) Some have entry fees, like Yosemite and Shenandoah, However, if you have one of the "Passes" then the fee is waived. I have the Access Pass because I am a disabled Vet. This pass is available for any disabled individual and is free.
8) This I believe differs from park to park. Where we go in the Sierra Nat'l Forest, you only need to get a permit if you plan on having a fire. Otherwise, you just find a spot.
Just a thought. It seems you've done a lot of State Park camping. It has been my experience that State parks and nat'l forest camping are very similar in that you get beautiful forested settings (unless not in the forest of course), larger sites, not that cramped RV resort type setting.
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The national forest link that elh0146 gave you is an excellent site. Pay particular attention to the descriptions because you can find some clues about how close together and private the sites are by reading them. Google Earth is good for a look at the layout too.
Just a few things to add to the other answers - We've stayed in a few Texas state parks which were very nice but also very developed and structured. So if you want to get into a more natural setting,camping in the forests is the way to go. We've never camped in one in Texas though and they are all different because each state is involved in managing their own forests. We have camped in Colorado and New Mexico so if you're up for a little drive check them out , especially the Gila National Forest in New Mexico. Lots of maintained dirt road , very little understory , large mature trees and very few people. If you contact each individual forest service they can recommend good boondocking areas.
Another suggestion for camping similar to state parks are COE lakes. The ones with fewer amenities will probably be less crowded.
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narcodog

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Hjudge49 wrote: I can only answer number one. Even during hunting season, it's illegal to hunt at night, so I guess you shouldn't hear any gunshots. The only exception to that is during the Alligator season in Florida when night hunting is the only legal time to hunt them. But the hunters don't shoot them with guns anyway.
You can also hunt coons and in some places hogs at night.
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One thing not mentioned forest service property's don't all have the same rules. Also inter dispersed throughout FS property's is private land so you need to look for signage.
Nearly all FS property's allow hunting in some form or other. Most game lands are on FS property that are managed by both the State and FS.
I camp 99% of the time in FS property whether here at home or in the West. There is also a considerable amount of BLM prpoerty.
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narcodog wrote: One thing not mentioned forest service property's don't all have the same rules. Also inter dispersed throughout FS property's is private land so you need to look for signage.
Nearly all FS property's allow hunting in some form or other. Most game lands are on FS property that are managed by both the State and FS.
I camp 99% of the time in FS property whether here at home or in the West. There is also a considerable amount of BLM prpoerty.
I stand corrected on my answer to #1. It seems there is hunting on Forest Service land, I've just never stayed in nat'l forests that allowed it. Seems Texas has a large area.
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Have you ever tried the COE parks? We like them a lot and due to state parks being full if you don't book far in advance, this is another choice. Check out COE parks and type in the area you're interested in and see what all is available. Have fun!
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