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Chillywilly

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Posted: 10/25/09 07:39am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What is the basic difference between class B, B+ and C?

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B= glorified conversion van. B+= longer, heavier, lower profile only 1/2 cabover area for entertainment (VERY NICE coaches). C= full cab-over usually a bed or an entertainment center. Look at BornFree, FourWinds, Itasca websites - they offer B, B+ and C to see the differences.

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B - Built in a full bodied van, or one that left the automaker as one.

B+ - Strictly a marketing term, for a slimmer class C with no cabover bunk.

C - Built on a cutaway cab-chassis.

It's really that simple. All else is hand-waving by individuals trying to obscure the simplicity of the RVIA system.

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RV.org, a well respected RV group, also defines motorhomes as A, B, or C. The website www.rv.org gives an easy to understand description of each type of motorhome. B+ is strictly a marketing term.


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Chillywilly,

Asking yourself these questions will help greatly in making the right decision on what to consider.

- What amount are you budgeting for?
- How many people will be traveling and sleeping in it?
- Do you plan to camp most often, with or without hookups like electric, water, and sewer?
- Living in it for a season at a time, or vacationing a few weeks and weekends at a time?
- Planning for on-the-go trips, or "Plant yourself at a lake" type use?
- What part of the country are you located, so we could recommend a particular dealer?

If cost is a big concern, be prepared to discover, Bs can be just as expensive or even more expensive than many of the B+s, Cs, and even entry level As.


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Here at the Open Roads Forum we use the terms Class B, Class B+ and Class C in a clear and consistent way:

Class B: Built up from a van with minimal modifications to the original van body.

Class C: Built up from a cutaway vehicle - which means the cab is provided from the chassis manufacturer while the rest of the body is manufactured by the MH company.

Class B+: An undefined marketing term. Can be applied to anything from something that looks very much like a traditional Class B but is larger to a very large Class C without an overhead bed. The introduction of the term "Class B+" has done little but create confusion.

RVIA has gone to looser definitions of motorhome "types" (rather than "classes") that are more like general descriptions that definitions ans they also do not use the "B+" designation. The descriptions of the various types of MHs are extremely useful, even if not competely accurate.

RV.org is an RV rating company and they still use them terms "Class A," Class B" and "Class C."

It's worth noting that, with the addition of the inconsistently-used marketing term "Class B," when one is shopping for a new MH one must be very careful about terminology so as to not be mislead.


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Maybe this can sum up this perennial topic of discussion:

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RVIA does not classify RVs by chassis type


And RV.net does.

I feel RV.net members would be better served and far less divisive if we adopted RVIA's perspective that RV functionality (how it is used) is more important than what truck it sits on.

RVIA is usually referenced when someone wants to point to a standards-making body within the industry, but only when it might in some manner seem to support their own opinion.

It is not trivial that RVIA deempasized MH classification-by-chassis.


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ChillyWilly

You probably never looked in the long B+Motorhomes thread where I recently put the following post together

All of the pics may be regarded as B+ rigs

burlmart wrote:

Early on, as a newbie, when I got into this thread when it was in the B forum, I was not interested in the truck chassis, but the coach size functionality (toadless, maneuverable, etc.). So to me, B+ simply meant a little bigger than B, and I sensed that there was a lot in common with people who own Bs.

As the B+ started stretching out well beyond 22 ft, it became obvious that the B+ rigs like our TLs, BT Cruisers, Phoenix, Lexington, and the like are only barely different from a C w/o an overcab bed. But it was just these type rigs that were what most RVers understood to be described by the term B+. The B style functionality took on less and less importance.

I never thought the B+ (or Super C) subforum should be created, if they are all Cs - the forums were already too divided-up.

But the subforums WERE created - there is a B+ subforum.

The point I make is that, if the B+ distinction actually has any validity, it is that there are many old, current, and surely soon to exist small, streamlined motorhomes built on chassis-cabs that ACTUALLY DO hold true to the spirit of B-Plus (like the Ford Transit Euro C class in the pics below).

Because these more pure B+ designs (other pics below) are uniquely different from either RV.net B or C class distinction, they tend to go away and form small users groups elsewhere, instead of finding a place to discuss their rigs in the B+ subforum.


burlmart wrote:

All points raised here seem right to me. The classification of MHs certainly has its purpose, but it causes problems as well. I think the RVIA recognized this with their current new classification scheme even if is conveniently ignored by almost everyone; it is quite loose with drawing boundaries, and people like to maintain boundaries.


Around 2001, Trail Lite (TL) creatively used “B-Plus”



as a model name for its new lower-cost line of small, streamlined Cs, that were a bit larger than the popular Cs from Chinook



and Dynamax (Starflyte)



which they emulated. Well-known Born Free



was and still is another long standing builder of this style RV.


I think it has been posted by others that use of the term B+ to designate a category of MHs seems to have arisen amongst mfgrs like Phoenix,



Gulfstream,



etc.





who had similarly popular models like the TL B-Plus.


These smaller rigs, whether they be called B+s or small Cs, all share a common intended functionality with camping van conversions (Class Bs)



but draw upon the major benefit from starting on a bare chassis (Class C) and thus are not subject to the serious constraint on living space that confronts Bs as they attempt to stay within the van box.


With the tenacious adherence to hard-drawn classification boundaries, too much energy is spent on the forums explaining, for instance, that this



is a Class C, and this



is a Class B campervan. As weird as these cases seem - and they are weird - what is gained from such silly discussion?


In hindsight, had the Euro term 'low-profile C Class'



been adopted, there may have developed a more robust version of the B+ subforum that might better serve owners of the many unique rigs


















As things stand now, the more novel styles above find it hard to gain an audience and tend to fall between the classification cracks. The price for being different, I suppose.


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The British have clear definitions of B, C, and B+:



They define a camper van, the Class B, exactly like Westronics in the following

Westronics wrote:

Here at the Open Roads Forum we use the terms Class B, Class B+ and Class C in a clear and consistent way:

Class B: Built up from a van with minimal modifications to the original van body.

Class C: Built up from a cutaway vehicle - which means the cab is provided from the chassis manufacturer while the rest of the body is manufactured by the MH company.

Class B+: An undefined marketing term. Can be applied to anything from something that looks very much like a traditional Class B but is larger to a very large Class C without an overhead bed.


What Westronics calls a Class C is similarly called a C Class, or more informatively, coachbuilt, wherein the van body has been left off or removed to be replaced with more spacious and complete living quarters (coach) similar to a small travel trailer (which they call caravans).

The B+ that Wes calls an "undefined marketing term" is very much defined in the Briitish wording:

What we call a B+ is a C-Class in the UK, and "many have overcab beds in the ‘Luton’ but there are also ‘low-profile’ versions of these motorcaravans without the Luton over-cab space and sometimes with a lower roofline, these vans are much more economical on motorways due to their improved aerodynamics."

Most of the pics in my previous post are indeed low-profile Class Cs which is what we call B+ motorhomes.

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