FastEagle
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grizmt wrote:I've got a 2010 Big sky (2000 miles at most) with Carlisle tires and we just had a violent blowout on I-10 night before last. Replaced with spare and when we pulled into the campground 40 minutes later the the second tire on the same side went. Took one of the tires to the tire store where we found the steel bead cord had seperated from the tire and rim. Looked at the second tire and it seems to be doing the same. IMO these things are dangerous and we will NOT be putting them back on.
With those 7000# axles I assume your OE Carlisle tires are ST235/85R16E. They are load ranged at 3640# @ 80psi. You have very few 16” options with the 7000# axles. The Carlisle ST tires are not performing very well on any axles especially if you are speeding over the 65 MPH limit with them. To upgrade to the Goodyear LT235/85R16G you will also have to upgrade your wheels. First you need to inform Keystone of your problem and see if they will help you with replacing your current tires. Carlisle also has a ST235/85R16F that is load ranged at 3960# @ 95 psi. If you are hauling a bit heavy this may solve the problem and would not require a rim upgrade.
Probably your very best long term option with a 2010 model is to upgrade to 17.5” wheel/tire assemblies. The Michelin LT215/75R17.5 LRG is a very good match for your GVWR or GAW. The European designed Michelin has a 75 MPH speed restriction and is load ranged at 3750# @ 100 psi and will fit your axle configuration.
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RandACampin
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hotpepperkid wrote:skipnchar wrote:If it were ME i'd get those Chinese "time bombs" off as soon as possible. It's not a matter of IF but WHEN. Maxxis would certainly be my choice for replacement. Good luck /skip
And where do you think Maxxis is made?
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Thialand! A totally different country from China.
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JIMNLIN
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jeez, a simple search on Carlisle trailer tire on this web along has dozens of bad first hand experiences with them. A google search shows even more first hand experiences and blown tire threads on the Carlisle ST tires especially on a trailer that has a 10k dry weight as yours. Carlisle leads all tires with tire complaints on the NHTSA web.
A 10000 lb dry weight trailer needs a better tire than any brand ST. If your just a weekend camper that camps close to home or have a lightweight trailer (under 6k-7k) or run the interstates at legal speeds/etc you may get by with a ST tire. Your choice.
If your serious about not wanting ST tire issues I would upgrade to 16" wheels and LT E tires. Several excellent USA made 16" brands/sizes for your heavy trailer are available.
"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" Will Rogers
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Dr Quick
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I bought a used trailer two years ago that had Chinese "Super Cargo" tires on it. I think that they were on the trailer about 2 years. We made a trip to Alaska, 10,000 miles, last summer and never had to add air in 6 weeks on the road. I traveled 6,000 miles this year and I did have one failure.
Blew a tire in south east Utah on my latest trip. When I went to get a new tire asked the service man if it was caused by a poor quality tire? He did not know if that was the case, then he saw a gouge in tread. Since tire was tore open, I put my hand in and felt when something had gone though. So I really can not blame the make of tire for that.
I always travel 55 to 60 as I feel it is easier on truck and saves fuel and since I am retired I am not in that much of a hurry.
I would be curious to know at what speed people were driving when they had a tire failure, as ST are rated for a maximum of 65 MPH. I have seen trailers blow by me at 75+.
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bobbert
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I donn't think anyone will say how fast they were driving or how loaded and what road conditions were. I drive 62-63 at 1700 rpm and it is amazing how many pass me especially on the freeways and how loaded they are.
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grizmt
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Generally I don't go over about 62 since mileage drops. The problem with "upgrading" to 17 inch tires is a warranty issue since this is a new rig. As for the LT tires, I was told by Keystone,Mor-ryde, a couple of tire store mgrs and mechanics NOT to use them. It seems that ST tires have a crowned tread pattern and the LT's have a flat tread pattern that puts more tire surface on the pavement. Normally you'd think that's a good thing BUT it's not, when you turn the trailer you have all that rubber scuffing placing quite a bit of side resistance on the suspension and it's not designed for that and this could cause premature wear and failure.
Think about it, it's like hooking a chain to the side of your trailer and pulling it over a few feet every time you turn a corner. The more rubber you have in contact with the pavement the harder it is to do.
Will I put on LT tires? No, not at this time.
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RandACampin
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JIMNLIN wrote:jeez, a simple search on Carlisle trailer tire on this web along has dozens of bad first hand experiences with them. A google search shows even more first hand experiences and blown tire threads on the Carlisle ST tires especially on a trailer that has a 10k dry weight as yours. Carlisle leads all tires with tire complaints on the NHTSA web.
Probably because they are the most prolific tire on trailers. As well when you read the actual complaints (I have) many are the result of speeding and being overloaded. Refering to to the NHTSA complaints as an ididicator does not tell the whole tire story. A google search will reveal the same tire story on multiple sites from the same person, further distorting the internet tire story.
There are millions of trouble free miles by Carlisle tires unreported.
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Chris
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grizmt wrote:Generally I don't go over about 62 since mileage drops. The problem with "upgrading" to 17 inch tires is a warranty issue since this is a new rig. As for the LT tires, I was told by Keystone,Mor-ryde, a couple of tire store mgrs and mechanics NOT to use them. It seems that ST tires have a crowned tread pattern and the LT's have a flat tread pattern that puts more tire surface on the pavement. Normally you'd think that's a good thing BUT it's not, when you turn the trailer you have all that rubber scuffing placing quite a bit of side resistance on the suspension and it's not designed for that and this could cause premature wear and failure.
Think about it, it's like hooking a chain to the side of your trailer and pulling it over a few feet every time you turn a corner. The more rubber you have in contact with the pavement the harder it is to do.
Will I put on LT tires? No, not at this time.
Well that crowned tread you talk about is as flat as a pancake on the ground. ST tires are dinosaurs that have out lived there usefulnest on heavy trailers. Other than their inflated weight ratings they are basically junk. I good LT tire speed restricted like the ST would stand up much better to large 5th wheels, but the manufactures would not do that as people would not stick to the speed rating.
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Chris
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RandACampin wrote:JIMNLIN wrote:jeez, a simple search on Carlisle trailer tire on this web along has dozens of bad first hand experiences with them. A google search shows even more first hand experiences and blown tire threads on the Carlisle ST tires especially on a trailer that has a 10k dry weight as yours. Carlisle leads all tires with tire complaints on the NHTSA web.
Probably because they are the most prolific tire on trailers. As well when you read the actual complaints (I have) many are the result of speeding and being overloaded. Refering to to the NHTSA complaints as an ididicator does not tell the whole tire story. A google search will reveal the same tire story on multiple sites from the same person, further distorting the internet tire story.
There are millions of trouble free miles by Carlisle tires unreported.
And you do not think that there are more Goodyear Marathons produced than all the others combined? And just where is your experience with a larger 5th wheel?????
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RanACampin,
Prove there are millions of miles by Carlisle Tires unreported.
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