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RE: Best, quality built class “C” or small class “A” and why?
Those who know me, know my recommendation... a Phoenix Cruiser
Another question on the Phoenix Cruiser. I have been looking online at the model 2100 (21 footer). We don't have to have a made up bed, and at 50 inches wide, that made up bed would not be wide enough for the wife and I. So, on the 2100 non slide out model, do both the dinette and the couch make into a bed or beds? If so, what are their widths or overall width? After folding out the bed, is there enough room to walk through to front or back. I could not find that info on the manufacture's website. Also, I like the shorter length and rear kitchen of the 21 footer. Anyone have experience with this model?
Alyn
Why You Ask? Here Is Why.
- The shorter models are available on both the Sprinter-Diesel & E350-V10 Chassis
- All are priced competitively, as low as $60,000 for a Sprinter
- Lower over-all height for better drivability, only 9'-10" to the top of the roof a/c unit.
- Not straight vertical walls, but rather curved & angled walls for less wind influence when driving
- Very strong and durable framed entry door with integrated roll-away screen door. It has a nice quality feel and seal, with good locks too.
- Quality glass windows, We have the thermal pane option. Wow! Road noise, rest area noise, and camp ground noise is greatly reduced. The windows by the bed have much less cold radiation while sleeping in freezing temperatures. The furnace runs much less too.
- Clean-Hands Sani-Con sewage management system. Need I say more about this feature?
- Quality materials and workmanship.
- Well engineered for maximum comfort in a minimal over-all size.
- Adequate holding tanks, not novilties but truly practical.
- A "real" bathroom with a nice shower, even in the smallest model.
- Offered with slide-outs if you desire bigger living quarters.
- Exterior storage compartments are well thought out. Every model has at least two of them.
- Customer Service is great, regardless of how far away you live from any of their dealers.
- Phoenix USA is a privately owned company. They do what they can to keep PC owners happy so they become return customers and/or offer referrals. They do NOT have to answer to stock holders. The owner doesn't find ways to make it cheaper, but rather better, and it shows. He will do what is within reason to build a quality motor home, not trying to save a few dollars here and there.
- The company is flexibile in making deviations from their basic model floorplans as long as such changes don't require re-engineering of basic systems, for example....re-plumbing. Such deviations are not priced rediculous either. Some are done for free, others at their cost, and some at an extra cost. We requested minor deviations which cost us nothing extra.
- Built to last
1) Crowned roof eliminates puddling of water on the roof, which otherwise has water & ice problems around the a/c unit
2) Single sheet fiberglass roof, rolled over rounded edges with rain gutters on the sides
3) 5 sided rear fiberglass cap with integrated storage compartment and spare tire compartment, the cap moves all seamwork in-board where there is much less stress
4) Exterior walls are made of gel coated structural fiberglass, not simple sheet stock where you'll find wood behind it
5) Thick steel box-tube floor frame, with block insulation floor and a thick fluted plastic under-barrier. Marine plywood decking too
6) Aluminum studded walls and roof with block insulation
7) 12 gauge wire for all 15 amp electrical circuits, 10 gauge wire for all 20 amp circuts
8) 12V is thicker gauge too, done with continuous wiring, no connectors. This done to handle all power surges better.
9) 110v and 12v separated for electrical safety isolation
10) All plumbing uses solid brass joints and elbows for strong plumbing durability
11) The wing walls between the driving cab and main cabin, are structurally sound. They are steel framed and bolted solid for a strong transition between compartments
12) Cut-outs in walls and roof for windows, a/c, etc, are metal framed behind, for improved structural integrity.
A lot of this data is covered in Phoenix USA's Power Point presentation Here. The quality of the presentation isn't very good, especially the sound, but watch and listen to see what I outlined.
Here are numerous pictures inside & outside of our 2007 model 2350 (rear corner bed) with no slide-out. We paid $67,200 in June of 2007. I added the two TVs myself and upgraded the bathroom faucet, so don't think it came that way from the factory.Click Here For A Slide Show
Adding: For The Record......We had no warranty issues with ours.
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ralyn43
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11/19/09 09:18pm |
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RE: Best, quality built class “C” or small class “A” and why?
Good info, Ron. Will keep that all in mind. Thanks for being such a wealth of information on the Phoenix Cruiser.
Alyn
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ralyn43
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11/04/09 10:33pm |
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RE: Best, quality built class “C” or small class “A” and why?
Wow! The Phoenix Cruiser sounds like the right rig for me and the wife. We will be moving up from a pop top truck camper, so this will seem like heaven. Now, to find a used one or to come up with the money to make a new one happen. I think the main reason most of us on the forums keep hen pecking everything to death is that we want to find the right compromise/fit that will last us for many years instead of trading around for eons because we did not make a dedicated study in the first place.
Where on the net would be the best place to find a used Cruiser if there is any such animal? We know from Ron an excellent place to buy a new one.
Alyn
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ralyn43
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11/04/09 09:03pm |
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